It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

The Overlap
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    1984/85: The Season that Shook English Football, Part One

    Welcome to It Was When It Was, the football history podcast. This week we're focussing on the 1984-85 footballing season - arguably the bleakest time in English football history - that changed the game forever. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper begin the first of two episodes covering the violence, tragedy, and upheaval of this period and the wider context of football hooliganism in the first half, whilst the second half of part one pays tribute to the horrific Bradford Fire that claimed 56 lives 40 years ago. Explore gripping firsthand accounts, the reactions of key figures, and the societal and institutional issues that plagued the sport, leading to safety measures and ultimately, a transformation in football culture. Join us on Friday as we are joined by Tony Evans to talk about the Heysel tragedy that happened at the end of May in 1985. 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 01:09 Reflecting on the 1984-85 Season 02:47 The Bradford Fire Tragedy 04:00 Football's Decrepit Stadiums 06:31 Chelsea vs. Sunderland: Milk Cup Semi-Final Chaos 12:36 Luton vs. Millwall: FA Cup Violence 26:35 Birmingham vs. Leeds: Championship Decider Mayhem 29:10 Fans Fight Back and Prolonged Chaos 30:52 Medieval Fortress and Perimeter Fences 31:59 Racism and Aggression in Football Culture 33:15 Introduction to the Bradford Fire 35:04 The Start of the Fire and Initial Reactions 36:16 Rapid Escalation and Desperate Attempts to Escape 38:20 Heartbreaking Personal Accounts and Immediate Aftermath 47:16 Investigations and Controversies 50:57 Negligence and Legal Consequences 57:30 Broader Implications and Future Changes 59:24 Conclusion and Preview of Next Episode Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 hr
  2. 13 MAY

    Crystal Palace 1990: Eagles' FA Cup Heroics and the Final that Saved Sir Alex

    Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. It’s FA Cup final week, with Manchester City set to take on Crystal Palace at Wembley. In this episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper revisit the dramatic story of Palace’s remarkable run to the 1990 FA Cup Final. Just months after a crushing 9-0 defeat to Liverpool, Crystal Palace stunned the same side in a sensational 4-3 semi-final — a match still regarded as one of the greatest in FA Cup history. That victory set up a final against Sir Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United, who, at the time, were still chasing their first trophy under his management. Today, we delve into where Crystal Palace stood as a club in 1990, explore their tactical shifts, highlight standout performances — especially the impact of Ian Wright — and examine Manchester United’s situation under Ferguson, including the pivotal moments that led to his first silverware with the club. We also examine whether Palace could shock Manchester City and finally win the FA Cup for the first time in their history. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:23 Crystal Palace's Journey to the Semis 03:37 Televised Semifinals and Hillsborough's Impact 11:55 Crystal Palace's Tactical Shift 15:17 The Dramatic Semifinal Match 20:39 Crystal Palace's Historic FA Cup Final 21:06 Manchester United's Journey to the 1990 FA Cup Final 25:55 Ian Wright's Miraculous Comeback 28:35 The Replay and Ferguson's First Trophy 31:56 Comparing Crystal Palace Eras 36:05 Can Crystal Palace Upset Manchester City? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    38 min
  3. Harry Kane's Road to Silverware

    6 MAY

    Harry Kane's Road to Silverware

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Today co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper speak of the remarkable journey of Harry Kane, who recently clinched the Bundesliga title with Bayern Munich; the first trophy in his career. Recounting his early days at Arsenal youth, to multiple rejections, and loan spells that nearly derailed his career, the episode highlights Kane’s undeterred determination and resilience. Discover how pivotal moments and key influences, such as Mauricio Pochettino and a documentary on Tom Brady, transformed him into one of football’s greatest strikers. We end with a quiz, as Rob tests Jonathan's knowledge of British and Irish players who won major league titles abroad! 00:00 Introduction: A Childhood Memory 00:35 The Arsenal Release: A Turning Point 00:43 Celebrating Harry Kane's Achievements 01:02 The Early Struggles and Resilience 02:36 Harry Kane's Background and Family 03:06 Youth Football Journey 05:38 Challenges and Determination 14:27 Loan Spells and Growth 18:40 Millwall Experience and Growing Up 21:34 Norwich Loan: A Tough Period 27:16 Unexpected Laughter and Player Comparisons 28:02 Struggles at Leicester City 29:36 Turning Point: The Tom Brady Inspiration 31:13 Breakthrough Under Sherwood 32:33 Skepticism and Early Success 35:04 Pochettino's Influence and Physical Transformation 38:36 Near Misses and Final Disappointments 43:12 Legacy and Comparisons with Other Greats 47:43 Quiz on British and Irish Players Abroad 52:59 Conclusion and Reflections on Harry Kane's Career Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    53 min
  4. 2 MAY

    Top of the Kop - Liverpool Title Wins Ranked

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this week’s episode, we turn our attention to Liverpool’s extraordinary journey through their history, culminating in Arne Slot’s Premier League title-winning side. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper trace the club’s legacy from its early 20th-century triumphs to modern-day glory. They explore the tactical revolutions under legendary managers like Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley, the brilliance of iconic players in Kenny Dalglish and Ian Rush, and the resurgence under Jürgen Klopp. The episode also highlights how Arne Slot has carried that legacy forward, building on the foundations laid by his predecessors. Where does the 2024/25 Liverpool title winners rank amongst the club's greatest ever teams? Get in touch with @ItWasPod on X to let us know! 00:00 Introduction to Liverpool's Journey 01:42 Early Liverpool Champions: 1901-1923 02:42 The Impact of Tom Watson 06:24 Liverpool's Defensive Strengths 07:46 Post-War Liverpool: Nutrition and Success 08:46 The Rise of Billy Liddell 10:17 Jack Balmer's Unlikely Heroics 15:20 Liverpool's First Five Titles 16:34 Bill Shankly's Legacy 20:55 Bob Paisley's Tactical Brilliance 26:18 Liverpool's Dominance in the Late 70s 27:12 Liverpool's Dominant Back Four 27:52 Dalglish vs. Keegan: Who's Better? 29:08 The Greatest Liverpool Side of All Time? 29:54 European Cup Draw and Unfortunate Knockout 33:29 Transition to the Kenny Dalglish Era 37:53 Impact of Hillsborough and the 1989 Season 41:55 Liverpool's Modern Era and Klopp's Influence 46:46 Future Prospects and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    52 min
  5. 25 APR

    Barcelona vs Inter: Pep, José, and the Semi-Final That Defined an Era – Part Two

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. It's time for Part Two of Pep vs Jose! As Barcelona and Inter prepare to face off once again in this year’s Champions League semi-final, we look back at the original - a tie that shaped modern football. Guardiola vs Mourinho. All-out attack vs. tactical defiance. Ideology, rivalry - maybe even good vs. evil? Fifteen years ago, Pep’s all-conquering Barcelona met Jose's Inter Milan in a Champions League semi-final that didn’t just decide who reached the final - it helped define a footballing era. Having set the scene in part one, Rob and Jonathan relive the incredible semi-final battles, where Mourinho would ultimately dethrone Guardiola in an incredible second-leg at the Nou Camp - which saw a controversial sending off, late drama and an iconic pitch celebration. If you enjoyed the podcast please subscribe and rate. 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:45 The Clash of Philosophies: Mourinho vs. Guardiola 01:32 The Tactical Battle Begins 04:32 The Volcano Eruption and Its Impact 10:24 First Leg Highlights and Analysis 13:18 Ibrahimović's Conflict and Mourinho's Mind Games 18:06 The Build-Up to the Second Leg 25:23 The Myth of the Decision 25:41 The Controversial Red Card 26:54 Conspiracy Theories and Psychological Influence 27:52 The Clash of Good vs. Evil 28:34 Tactical Fouling and Pep's Cynical Side 29:59 Marina's Critique of Barcelona's Tactics 31:37 Inter's Defensive Masterclass 34:13 The Struggle Against Possession Football 36:38 The Final Moments and Disallowed Goal 40:03 Marino's Triumphant Celebration 43:16 The Aftermath and Legacy 46:43 The Tactical Evolution in Football 48:58 The Importance of Non-Possession Football 50:28 Conclusion and Reflections Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    51 min
4.8
out of 5
178 Ratings

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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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