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As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down.

5 MAR

The Author of "The Best Little Boy in the World" on Gay Loneliness

Andy Tobias is one of the most well-known financial thinkers in America and was the treasurer of the Democratic National Committee for almost 20 years. He's also the author of "The Best Little Boy in the World." Often considered the first book to openly address gay American life, it has impacted over a million readers. Andy reflects on his own life experiences trying to be "the best little boy in the world." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 min
26 FEB

The New Health Crisis for Gay Men: Crystal Meth

Mark S. King is in recovery for a Crystal Meth addiction that almost destroyed his life. Gay men are 4x more likely to use Crystal Meth than straight men. Mark reflects on what was at the root of his addiction and how he became sober. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

45 min
19 FEB

Raising Half a Billion Dollars to Fight AIDS

Tom Viola stepped down in December 2024, after leading Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS for 36 years. His fundraising has helped save countless lives. He reminisces on what it was like to live through the grief and trauma of the AIDS crisis — and how he coped. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

41 min
12 FEB

An Oral History of the AIDS Crisis

In this recap of our season's coverage of AIDS, we weave together the different voices of our guests — and their memories — of surviving the AIDS Crisis. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

42 min
5 FEB

Gay Rights Activism in the 60s & 70s

Martha Shelley was one of the architects of the mid 20th century gay rights movement. She recalls the issues she fought against back then — and explains why they're so relevant today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33 min
29 JAN

Planning the Very First Gay Pride March

Ellen Broidy proposed and helped lead the very first Pride March in 1970 in NYC. She reflects back on what inspired the march, what its original goals were, and whether she believes those goals have been achieved. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

41 min
22 JAN

The Transformational Power of Knowing Your Gay History

Ken Lustbader is a historic preservationist and co-director of the NYC LGBT Historic Sites Project — which has identified nearly 500 historically queer sites in New York. He reflects on how becoming a historian was motivated by living through the loss of the AIDS Crisis. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36 min
15 JAN

A Gay Man Called to be a Priest During the AIDS Crisis

Bill Glenn is the author of I Came Here Seeking a Person. A Vital Story of Grace; One Gay Man's Spiritual Journey. In the 70s, he trained to be a Catholic priest, but left the seminary at 29. But just as he left, his priestly gifts of love and compassion would be needed to get him — and the thousands of queer people he touched — through the AIDS Crisis. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33 min

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Introducing: But We Loved

As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

01/04/2024

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As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down.

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Outspoken
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iHeartPodcasts
Years Active

2024 - 2025
Episodes

41
Rating

Clean
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But We Loved